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« on: July 09, 2010, 01:05:33 PM »

Hi:

I've just recently been bitten by the tie-dye bug (I'd classify myself as "mildly addicted") and was looking to join a tie-dye forum to read, comment, ask questions, and maybe share a few pictures.

Registration for itiedye.com was disabled when I first tried about a week ago, so I joined Paula Burch's "Community of Dyers" instead (nice group, but fairly small).  However, I checked back today and was finally able to register here, so I thought I'd share some of the same info/pics as I did with Paula's group as a way of introducing myself.  Here goes:

I'm an older guy (just turned 50) who actually experienced the original tie-dye phenomenon as a child back in the 60's. About a month ago, with summer approaching, I decided I wanted to "color up" my dull wardrobe, and thought about revisiting tie-dye. After much research online (including this website) I took the plunge and have made several batches - including my latest with Procion dyes ordered from The Dharma Trading Company.

Being meticulous apparently really paid off. I followed instructions, using the proper amounts of dye, urea, soda ash, and even alginate (as a thickener), then "cured" everything in my gas oven, which has a pilot light, for almost 2 days. The colors were so vibrant, even after washing/drying, that the results strike me as almost professional. Even the black, which I expected to wash to some tone of gray, came out deep and inky.

I've even done some "discharge" dyeing where I discovered by happy accident that those shirts I thought I had used too much bleach on could not only be salvaged but improved by putting them through a followup round of tie-dye. These are now some of my favorites.

Anyway, I thought I'd share some pictures:

1. Rainbow Spiral with Black Accents:


 
This was my first effort, done with a simple Tulip kit from Michael's (arts and crafts store). It didn't initially turn out that well (the colors were very pale), but I started doing some research online and learned how to order and mix my own dyes for maximum effect (read: "vibrancy"). So I overdyed this one a second time with better dye mixtures, and threw in a little black for accents (it tends to make the colors "pop" more).

Final Verdict: Groovy, baby!

2.Black Discharge overlaid with Rainbow Spiral:


 
This one was another initial failure. I "discharged" a black T-shirt, tying and then removing the color with bleach, but I used too much and the result wasn't very good. So, I did a second pass and overlaid it with dye in a rainbow spiral pattern. Now I like the result. In fact, this is the T-Shirt I wore to my sister's 4th of July party (mild teasing ensued), as it looks the most like fireworks!

3. Blue Marble overlaid with Black Spider:


 
Before I started making my own, I had ordered a couple tie-dye T-shirts off of Ebay. This started out as one of them, but the blue marbling pattern was defective (it had washed out lines running through it), so I decided to try to save it by overlaying a black "spider" pattern. I was both surprised and delighted this turned out as well as it did - especially the deep black.

Patient saved!

4. Black Spiral Discharge:


 
This is a pure "discharge", done with 100% bleach. I enjoy the immediate results, and the fact you never know what color you're going to end up with. Some black fabrics I tried discharged all the way to white, but most ended up at a rusty orange hue, like the one seen here. Still, I like it. It'll be good for late October!

5. Red Discharge with Spiral on Logo:


 
This is a pure discharge on a red shirt with an existing logo. I bought the high quality T-Shirt in excellent condition at Goodwill for $1 (score!). I then wrapped and banded the shirt in a classic spiral tie centered on the logo and applied bleach. IMO, the result enhances a previously ordinary surf-T. Very easy and very inexpensive.

6. Fail!


 
I include this last one as an example of how things don't always work out the way you have planned. This was my first attempt at a "crumple" fold. I crumpled it pretty tight, then dribbled all three primary colors (fuchsia, turquoise, yellow) on the shirt, with mostly blue around the edges. The result? Epic Fail! Instant Sleep Shirt! In other words, I won't be wearing this one out of the house.

The only good news is, the shirt was another cheapie. I find the selection at my local Goodwill to be excellent. Good quality T-shirts in every (sorted!) color and variety go for $2 - and the half-price tags for just $1! Further, I obtained some "blanks" (white T's) from a swap meet last weekend. Gildan and Anvil heavyweights, 5 for $10. In other words:

"I have not yet begun to dye!"

Whew!

That's enough for a first time post!

Tie-Dye Todd

P.S. Did I say "mildly" addicted?

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« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2010, 07:25:19 AM »

Looks like you're having a good time !!

I've dyed many a shirt from thrift stores...they can also be a good place to find white cotton sheets.
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« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2010, 06:04:40 AM »

Welcome Todd!

Awesome first attempts and your presentation marvelous!

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« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2010, 11:15:13 AM »

Looks like you're having a good time !!

I've dyed many a shirt from thrift stores...they can also be a good place to find white cotton sheets.

Thanks, Eric.

Yeah, the Goodwill store is remarkable.  They must have literally 500+ T-Shirts on the $1.99 rack - all sorted by color.  Huge selection of white and black.  And every week, they designate a certain color tag "1/2 price" (to get rid of inventory), so many shirts are only $1!  I've found good quality, heavyweight T's in every color, some blank, some not.

In other words, I started wanting to make 3 or 4 tie-dye T-shirts to wear...

...and now it looks like I'm going to end up with something closer to 23 or 24!

Enough tie-dye for a lifetime!

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« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2010, 11:18:38 AM »

Welcome Todd!

Awesome first attempts and your presentation marvelous!

Jo

Thanks, Jo.

I guess I can draw a straight line between "my first attempts turned out pretty well" to "what am I going to do with 24 tie-dye T-shirts???"

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« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2010, 06:58:47 PM »

Perhaps evolving into a booth at a Farmer's Market to support your addiction.......

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« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2010, 07:00:53 AM »

Last shirt is not bad for me - maybe too much contrast but if you submerge it in some wat dye, wring it out and let it cure, it would be wearable without problem.
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« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2010, 11:02:14 AM »

Last shirt is not bad for me - maybe too much contrast but if you submerge it in some wat dye, wring it out and let it cure, it would be wearable without problem.

I'm intrigued, Jaja, but I don't know what you mean by "wat dye".

Is this an acronym?  Does it mean "water-based dye"?

When I tried to google it, I only got a lot of results with "what dye" misspelled!

Tie-Dye Todd

P.S.  Color suggestion?
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« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2010, 12:29:28 PM »

hi Todd - i think Jaja means dye it in a bucket, "vat dye".
However, I would just LWI (low water immersion) the shirt if you wanted to.
Look under "dyeing techniques" here in the forum.
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« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2010, 10:08:53 PM »

Oh, thanks for corrections - maybe due to heat-waves I did alot of misspelled words yesterday (even in my mother tongue).
LWI would do as well, but that way you get more "mixed up" effect.
Since the motif looks central-based there might be possible to apply on it "umbrella fold" (bulls eye) or spiral. For some reason I like idea of bulls eye with turquoise most. The decision is yours, of course!

And one more thought for discharge spiral...don't pour bleach on each "pizza piece", leave out each second one or try to apply two different dilutions to get more depth in shades. Another variation - wash the bleach out, use bleach stop to deactivate it, wash it again (still w/o untieing) and apply some dyes to previously discharged areas.
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« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2010, 04:39:20 AM »

hi Todd - i think Jaja means dye it in a bucket, "vat dye".
However, I would just LWI (low water immersion) the shirt if you wanted to.
Look under "dyeing techniques" here in the forum.
k. taltre

Thanks, k.  I'll do some reading on "low water immersion", but I have one worry...

...I'm not ready to get addicted to another dyeing technique!

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« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2010, 04:50:17 AM »

And one more thought for discharge spiral...don't pour bleach on each "pizza piece", leave out each second one or try to apply two different dilutions to get more depth in shades. Another variation - wash the bleach out, use bleach stop to deactivate it, wash it again (still w/o untieing) and apply some dyes to previously discharged areas.

Thanks for your bonus thoughts about "discharge" (bleach) tie-dyeing, JaJa, which is a technique I really enjoy for its immediacy.

As you've obviously deduced, I've been pretty much a straight 100% bleach applicator, and tend to cover the entire surface area of the tie/fold uniformly.  This gave me good early results.  I haven't experimented yet with dilutions or application variations (though I have tried over-dyeing a discharged garment - see pic#2 above - a favorite of mine).  I think that if I do attempt more discharging, I'll probably vary it by trying to fold pleated patterns rather than just spirals/spiders.

I find it really interesting that even with something as simple as bleaching, i.e., no color choices to make, there can still be so many permutations.

But how many T-shirts does one guy need??

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« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2010, 06:41:28 AM »

Todd, please read my bleach suggestion one more time - WITHOUT UNTIEING! smiley
That's permutation you haven't done before I'd say.

LWI is simple - scrunch dampened t-shirt into container (e.g. cut-out plastc bottle), pour on it whatever dyes you'll find prepaired from previous dyeing operations, make sure it's submerged in dye and that you have added soda solution as well. If pouring dyes is being made paralelly to the process of scrunching t-shirt into the container, you get less whites on bottom (preferable option). Then let it cure, it's easy as that.
It's a must technique for tie-dyer - you could save alot of faulty pieces with this technique and it could be the only technique for materials of certain thickness.
And if you want, you can spent lots of hours and t-shirts to prefect variegations of color hues and contrasts.
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« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2010, 12:22:56 AM »

I'd probably overdye the sleep shirt I actually have a couple of fail tees curing to launder after hubby gets thru the shower with black spirals overdyed on them, but I've also had some fun results using the same technique with different colors. Navy also pops with bright colors so might give you a very nice result, or you could do a spiral dye and apply perhaps navy and fuchsia on alternating wedges of the "pizza," like two wedges of navy opposite two wedges of fuchsia, with a wedge of white between them for contrast. You could also experiment with different or graduated colors from the inside of the spiral tie outward, so maybe navy in the center and fuchsia toward the outside, or vice versa.

My outlook is that if it's already a Fail shirt, I can't likely make it worse -and if I do, I have fabric for other experiments.
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« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2010, 05:21:42 AM »

And if you want, you can spent lots of hours and t-shirts to prefect variegations of color hues and contrasts.

After having tie-dyed over 30 T-Shirts in a little over a month (about 24 of which were wearable), that last sentence above really rings true.

- I did mostly spinning folds, and never really got very deep into the pleats.

- I did mostly pie-wedge color application, and barely scratched the surface of different ways to apply dye.

- I've never even attempted some of the more advanced folds, like shapes, stars, and mandalas!

So, yeah, I can definitely see how one could spend "LOTS of hours and t-shirts" on various tie-dye permutations!

But I've scratched the itch for a while, anyway...

...and I've got 24 T-Shirts to wear out!

Tie-Dye Todd
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