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Author Topic: matching procian dye to dharma colorchart  (Read 1527 times)
bluetops
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« on: March 29, 2009, 04:54:32 PM »

hi, have had to order colors from dharma as my supplier here in australia has closed due to bushfires.Ordered pr38 khaki but it is too brown for my Olive mxgd, any suggestions to match the Olive mxgd would be apprec
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« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2009, 03:28:32 AM »

Unfortunately, Olive MX-GD is a made-up name. It does not refer to a single pure unmixed Procion MX dye color, but instead to a mixture of other dyes. This mixture is proprietary, that is, its contents are a trade secret, and it is not quite the same as the mixtures of dyes sold by any other dye supplier.

Kraftkolour had a wonderful website with a huge amount of useful information on it. It's a terrible loss. You can't even check what their color swatch for olive MX-GD looked like. However, you can see it as one of the colors available in the Dye Mixer Applet. It looks exactly like a green olive to me (not all color names are as meaningful as this one). We're not sure that the olive green in the Dye Mixer Applet is KraftKolour's blend, but it's a start. Dharma's PR32 Olive Drab is much closer in color than their PR38 Khaki, which makes perfect sense given that, in English, khaki is considered to be a shade of brown, not green. (The name khaki comes from the Hindustani word for "dust colored", but, oddly, French uses the word khaki to refer to olive drab.) You might also look at the olive green Procion MX dye carried by Batik Oetoro.

Since you will not be able to buy a perfect match for your olive green dye mixture anyway, you should consider mixing your own to match. The Jacquard Products Color Mixing Chart (here's a link to my copy of the chart with generic dye names added) suggests mixing equal parts of rust orange (Brown MX-GRN) and medium blue (blue MX-R) to produce an olive green. Not all dye suppliers carry the pure dull terracotta-colored Brown MX-GRN dye; Dharma does not, but ProChem, Jacquard, and G&S Dye do. (Bright orange MX-2R will give quite different results unless you tone it down with another color.) See my chart of "Which Procion MX colors are pure, and which mixtures?" to identify catalog names used by different suppliers for the same dyes.

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« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2009, 03:17:33 PM »

Kraftkolour had a wonderful website with a huge amount of useful information on it. It's a terrible loss. You can't even check what their color swatch for olive MX-GD looked like.

not sure if this helps but...
http://web.archive.org/web/20071228194215/www.kraftkolour.com.au/csr_r_dyes.htm

Sometimes the Wayback Machine can be helpful...
http://www.archive.org/web/web.php
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« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2009, 07:53:17 PM »

Thankyou for your advice. Have ordered from Dharma, Olive Drab, along with Chocolate Brown. Already have a Blue to try mix my favorite olive which looks great against the fushias & purples. Hopefully Kraftkolour Australia will be back in buisness soon as the other supplier hasn't got Yellow,hence my having to order overseas. Used your "Procian MX colors pure & mixtures" list which helped work some out, but feel like a kid in a lolly shop with the hundred colors to choose from over there!
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